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Kendrix Arathan
Minmatar
N00bs With Guns
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Posted - 2009.02.08 04:27:00 -
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Find your fangs you !@@#$ing cry babys
God forbid there be risk in PVP
Dozens of other MMO's have XP penaltys for death, any death. In that respect EVE is relativity soft on player death, no damage to your character it's self if you are cloned, and NPC's never pod.
Sad day when the "Hard core l33t PVPers and "pirates" in EVE have less balls then EQ2 players...
And grats to everyone who had an epic level emo hissy fit over something that isn't finalized and they havent even seen yet, even CSMs...
 Originally by: StevieSG
Verone looks like data from star trek. that is all.
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Kendrix Arathan
Minmatar
N00bs With Guns
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Posted - 2009.02.08 10:20:00 -
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Originally by: MotherMoon
I bet that dev is kicking himself in the ass right now :P
I think the Dev's are probably laughing at the people in this thread running panicked in the streets, eating each other and screaming "the sky is falling"...
Pretty much nothing posted in this thread is even remotely close to what little the Dev's said on EVETV..
One person makes a baseless and idiotic assumption based on nothing but their own insanity, and some one else comes in reads it, parrots it as fact and nerd-rages about it, gathering others as they go, like a giant snowball of fail and stupidity.
This thread is the closest I've seen to the WOW forums on EVE, congrats and GTFO and go crap up some other game.
Originally by: StevieSG
Verone looks like data from star trek. that is all.
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Kendrix Arathan
Minmatar
N00bs With Guns
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Posted - 2009.02.08 21:32:00 -
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Edited by: Kendrix Arathan on 08/02/2009 21:33:41
I just want to be the 1st(*Edit*3rd) to LOL at the people forum waring over things that never even existed.
GG and watch EVE tv |
Kendrix Arathan
Minmatar
N00bs With Guns
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Posted - 2009.02.08 22:36:00 -
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Edited by: Kendrix Arathan on 08/02/2009 22:37:38
Originally by: Pottsey
What I don't like is those who have invested more into the skills lose more. It might be worth keeping your skills at lvl 4 just so you don't lose that lvl 5. I dont see why someone with a lvl 5 skill should lose 5 days of skills while someone with a lvl 4 skill would lose much less. The better you are the more you lose. Surely the better the pilot is the less he would lose.
It's one of the basic principals of EVE Benefit/Risk balancing, the higher the benefit the higher the risk.
IE: I spent a ton of time on skills to be able to fly my fancy ship, fancy ships (in general) cost more.
So i gain the benefit of "fanciness" but also gain the risk of added potential loss.
This is just a loss that everyone is guaranteed to feel to at least some degree, even those with potentially limitless money. |
Kendrix Arathan
Minmatar
N00bs With Guns
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Posted - 2009.02.08 23:51:00 -
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Originally by: Tychus
Cailais wrote:
Thing is, if you get a T3 ship blown up - you lose those subsystem skills - regardless of what ships youve got docked up somewhere. As your skills train all the time your first suggestion is not relevant.
Simple thing to do is use your skill que to rack up what ever subsystem skills you want trained. Go to work (carry on playing, whatever) at a point that suits you jump into T3 ship and use it.
C.
Ok, if thats hows it gonna work, ok. We're all dealing largely with speculation here anyway. But you can detect the grind factor right? This should not take a crayon schematic for anyone to see. LOTHAR OF THE HILL PEOPLE DEMANDS FUN! NOT MORE GRINDY! LOTHAR HIT WITH STICK!
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A) you fail at quotes, thus making your posts unreadable...
2) You fail at reading, while subject to change, what is currently being discussed (except by you) was stated as "how it works" by the Devs (and is how it will be on SiSi tomorrow)
c) Did you just complain about having to train skills to fly a ship and call it "grindy"
Originally by: StevieSG
Verone looks like data from star trek. that is all.
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Kendrix Arathan
Minmatar
N00bs With Guns
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Posted - 2009.02.09 00:12:00 -
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Edited by: Kendrix Arathan on 09/02/2009 00:16:05
Originally by: Dr Ming
Originally by: Yeshua Christ
Originally by: Dr Ming
T3 is going to be a failure in practice.
T3 sounds great in a theroycrafting lag free make-believe land where blobs and just plain unfairness don't exist.
T3 sounds great in a fairy-tale world where you are the center of the show, and your cunning gameplay will allow you to avoid SP loss while inflicting it on others. Fact of the matter is that your average, and your cunning gameplay isn't any more cunning that anyone else's.
SP is a resource you gain at a fixed rate. You can't play better to get more SP.
Losing SP when your ship blows up means that your character is going to become r.etarded.
Your character is going to be r.etarded because your average and you die as often as you kill. Or maybe your above average, and you still die because average people ganged up on you.
Actually, the people in T2 ships are going to primary you EVERY SINGLE TIME. So you going to die a lot more. Because people know that killing your ship makes your character r.etarded.
People play MMOs to make their character better. In that context, the design of T3 is mindbogglingly horrible and isn't going to be a popular option. If T3 is not a popular option, then wormhole space is not going to be popular.
All I could read said WAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAHHHH CCP ruined T3 cause it is risky! 
I'm training this character as a falcon alt. Don't cry on the forms when you know what happens to you.
QQing at challenging, game mechanics, crying the game being unfair causing your repeated death, rather than accepting that it's because of player skill, or lack there of...
Thinking there should be no penalty for death (the majority of MMO's have some kind of XP/Skill penalty for death, except for 1...)
Training the FOTTM in a desperate attempt to be OP despite having no idea how to play...
Your defiantly from WOW...
If you want a NERF MMO, EVE is not for you...
P.S GL w/ the falcon, for all we know one of the T3 Module benefits could be ECCM  |
Kendrix Arathan
Minmatar
N00bs With Guns
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Posted - 2009.02.09 00:23:00 -
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Originally by: Tychus
Kendrix- Lighten up Francis.
Was that a gay joke?
If so.. um thanks? but your not my type, the ability to form coherent sentences i something i prefer in the men I date...
And I have stopped reading your posts do to your apparent lack of reading comprehension and an enter key... |
Kendrix Arathan
Minmatar
N00bs With Guns
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Posted - 2009.02.09 00:35:00 -
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Edited by: Kendrix Arathan on 09/02/2009 00:36:41
Originally by: Dr Ming
My point is that EVE isn't fair. Falcons are not fair. They are recon ships, they are designed to not be fair.
You think people emoraged about EWAR before... Combine that with T3 and SP loss.
Because thats the bottom line with SP loss for flying T3. No T3 pilot better open their mouth and utter a single word about getting perma jammed, or hit by a DDD, or dying because the server is lagged.
Anyone who isn't stupid knows that isn't going to happen.
So your argument is that they shouldn't have t3 because stupid people will complain about it?
stupid people complain about EVERYTHING, there is no change to this this game that they could make (or decide not to make)that some stupid person wouldn't complain about...
and you do realize that the skill loss is confined to 1 of a hand full(5?) of rank 1 skills, so the potential loss is as little as a few hours of training, right?
No ones going back to a alpha clone becuase they flew t3 (unless they didn't bother to clone).
Originally by: StevieSG
Verone looks like data from star trek. that is all.
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Kendrix Arathan
Minmatar
N00bs With Guns
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Posted - 2009.02.09 00:55:00 -
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Originally by: Cailais
Originally by: Kendrix Arathan
So your argument is that they shouldn't have t3 because stupid people will complain about it?
Hey - youre not watching me type are you? 
/me checks house for spy cams.
C.
I kinda hope so..
some one else thinking like me is a scary prospect, one of me is bad enough lol |
Kendrix Arathan
Minmatar
N00bs With Guns
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Posted - 2009.02.09 01:16:00 -
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Edited by: Kendrix Arathan on 09/02/2009 01:19:00
Originally by: Dr Ming
My argument is that more often than not you lose ships in 'unfair' ways.
I think you meant to type "I" insted of you, cause I sure don't...
Originally by: Dr Ming
My argument is that re-training a skill that you already trained because you lose your ship in an 'unfair' manner is going to make people even more ****ed than they already were over losing their ship in the first place.
This is no different from having to re-earn the isk you already earned to re-buy the ship. This is just a new resource that can suffer limited loss, that you will have to replenish on top of what you normally do (People like you said no one would ever fly marauders because they cost too much to loose and plenty of people fly them now)
Originally by: Dr Ming
My argument is that losing a steady stream of ships will steadily chip away at your training rate.
Why the hell are you loosing so many ships???
do you auto pilot though low-sec as a hobby or what?
Originally by: Dr Ming
My argument is that when you look at how excited people are at the news of stat redistribution, and you turn that into negative excitement and you've got the reaction that T3 is going to have over time. Only take that negative excitement, and add to it that it will come into focus when they just lost their ship, in what is likely an unfair manner (because fights are about who can be the most unfair).
My argument is that T3 is a great sounding daydream, but in practice people will hate it. They will hate it because it involves things we already know most people don't like.
My argument is that if most people hate it, they won't use it. If most people don't use it, then there won't be demand for it. If there is no demand for it, then wormhole space will likely be a failure.
That is my argument.
The rest of this I can only assume is because your butt-hurt because you feel you can't fly T3 because you for some reason loose more ships than anyone else in eve (you might wanna get that looked at by the way, at some people you have to stop and think maybe it's not the game, its the person playing it. If i stub my toe, i don't blame the couch i stubbed it on lol).
You feel that Santa is bringing everyone else a toy but you and your solution is to try and take all the kids toys away..
Or you were expecting a SOLO-WTF-PWN Mobil and CCP "tries" to ballance things so they don't hand those out. |
Kendrix Arathan
Minmatar
N00bs With Guns
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Posted - 2009.02.09 01:20:00 -
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Edited by: Kendrix Arathan on 09/02/2009 01:20:52
Originally by: Dr Ming
Originally by: Yeshua Christ
They are going to be non-solopwnmobiles which will explode under any sort of concentrated fire that burn you for SP when it happens.
So you have exact stats on their resists and tanking abilities then?
if so please share |
Kendrix Arathan
Minmatar
N00bs With Guns
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Posted - 2009.02.09 01:26:00 -
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Originally by: Yeshua Christ
you don't speak for the rest of us.
you hit the nail on the head...
He can't see past himself, he thinks that he some how speaks for the entire player base, and that they share his awful point of view, as well as lack of piloting skill (player skill, not character skill, you need both.)
And I'm done, there is only so long you can punch an idiot in the face before it stops being fun and starts being sad.. |
Kendrix Arathan
Minmatar
N00bs With Guns
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Posted - 2009.02.09 18:30:00 -
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I said it in another thread and I'll say it again, these threads are great, Pirate/"l33t"PVPer tears are even sweeter than carebear tears
oh so good, keep it up i can't get enough lol
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Originally by: Hiroshima Jita
Ack losing something like engineering 5 because of ship choice is crud. Now if there was a t3 specific skill that took the hit when you died fine.
The bold section is how it works, your eyes were just too full of tears for you to read it
Originally by: Hiroshima Jita
For your statements Dau Imperius and anyone who shares his sentiments we will find you with a scout alt. We will fly our flashy red pirate ships into highsec and we will suicide gank your t3 ship.
come find me! Unlike some people(you) i welcome a challenge in pvp
though we both know you won't, this is just E-thug posturing cause your E-peen got bent
Originally by: StevieSG
Verone looks like data from star trek. that is all.
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